The Graphene team is bitey and paranoid, but they should be. As far as I can tell they're the only ones in the private phone OS space that has an ounce of integrity, in spite of their poor PR.
Helldump, which formed the basis of the "stalking for entertainment" websites like KiwiFarms, is easily one of the worst things the Something Awful forums helped spawn.
This post is a German translation of the Kiwi Farms thread personally targeting me with harassment based around fabricated stories, spin and completely unsubstantiated claims/theories. The post was made by a someone after they made similar personal attacks towards me in a recent Hacker News thread for an LWN article about GrapheneOS. Several of the posts were hidden so it's not all visible there:
The blog post includes links to content which clearly exists to target me with harassment from both Henry Fisher (Techlore) and Louis Rossmann. Nearly everything in both videos is highly inaccurate and both are people engaging in bullying towards me using their platforms to cause further harm towards me with their communities. Rossmann's video was posted shortly after I was repeatedly swatted by the Techlore community. Rossmann had been repeatedly making personal attacks towards me in our chat rooms, his videos and elsewhere including but not at all limited to expressing public support for Techlore's content attacking me. In that video, Rossmann falsely claims to have stopped using GrapheneOS which his own followers found he was still clearly using as a daily driver many months later. He did that as part of presenting a false narrative about him being scared to use it. He also presented us potentially publicly replying to his public jabs as forcing him to make a video targeting me with harassment. None of it makes much sense. In reality, he continued using it as shown by multiple later videos. He eventually acknowledge that he'd kept using it. He was quite clearly not scared to use it and stopped using it because we didn't make content with him and were upset with his attacks on us.
Louis Rossmann openly has a verified Kiwi Farms account (larossmann) where he seeks their respect/approval and was quite openly catering to them in his content attacking me. Not possible to link to the site here without it being filtered but it's easy enough to find. It doesn't accomplish much to disallow linking to it when posts laundering the same content like this one are permitted.
If you want people to take you seriously I think you're going to need some evidence to back up your claims. You need to be citing sources every time you say something is inaccurate.
Maybe Micay indeed isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to dealing with trolls and remembering the sequences of past events, and indeed might be accusing others of harassment without much basis.
However, the harassment towards Micay seems real. There's an active thread on KiwiFarms about Micay, and a random ass there frequently posts about his obsessions and makes all kinds of heavy accusations with sociopathic and narcissistic overtones.
KiwiFarms has a history of transferring their harassment from online text to offline violence.
The post is presenting fabricated stories directly from Kiwi Farms. I know what has happened and have a lot of it saved.
> and indeed might be accusing others of harassment without much basis
I'm not doing that. The person who posted the blog post is quite clearly engaging in harassment, as were the 2 people who posted the videos they posted. It's the same style of stalking, fabrications, bullying and directing people to harass someone as Kiwi Farms itself. They were doing it before Kiwi Farms was involved.
> However, the harassment towards Micay seems real. There's an active thread on KiwiFarms about Micay, and a random ass there frequently posts about his obsessions and makes all kinds of heavy accusations with sociopathic and narcissistic overtones.
The post itself and the 2 videos it links are a clear demonstration of harassment. The person who made the post is quite clearly a Kiwi Farms user, and Rossmann openly has an identity verified account there seeking approval from the person you're talking about and others like them.
> KiwiFarms has a history of transferring their harassment from online text to offline violence.
This was all happening long before Kiwi Farms was involved by Rossmann. There were multiple severe swatting attacks aimed at having me killed by law enforcement and other real world attacks. It's not limited to online and the online attempts at harming my reputation with fabricated stories and baseless claims that I'm insane. There's also a massive effort to justify the libel, bullying and harassment based on itself by claiming that it's justified because I've defended myself from it with posts like these. That's what the linked post is doing and what both videos it links are doing. Both people who made those videos were engaging in public bullying and libel towards me prior to posting those. Rossmann posted his video because I was upset with him in private after being swatted repeatedly and he couldn't tolerate that. He very clearly wasn't scared of me and continued using GrapheneOS. He wasn't scared that us posting a reply to him would harm him either. He chose to make it public and expose himself as being involved in the harassment by very publicly engaging in it. He chooses to have a Kiwi Farms account (larossmann) where he seeks their respect/approval and involves them in his conflicts as his personal army by bringing those up in his videos or Kiwi Farms itself.
The Graphene team is bitey and paranoid, but they should be. As far as I can tell they're the only ones in the private phone OS space that has an ounce of integrity, in spite of their poor PR.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44780766
Helldump, which formed the basis of the "stalking for entertainment" websites like KiwiFarms, is easily one of the worst things the Something Awful forums helped spawn.
4chan is a close second.
Thanks for your work btw.
This post is a German translation of the Kiwi Farms thread personally targeting me with harassment based around fabricated stories, spin and completely unsubstantiated claims/theories. The post was made by a someone after they made similar personal attacks towards me in a recent Hacker News thread for an LWN article about GrapheneOS. Several of the posts were hidden so it's not all visible there:
https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=onli
The blog post includes links to content which clearly exists to target me with harassment from both Henry Fisher (Techlore) and Louis Rossmann. Nearly everything in both videos is highly inaccurate and both are people engaging in bullying towards me using their platforms to cause further harm towards me with their communities. Rossmann's video was posted shortly after I was repeatedly swatted by the Techlore community. Rossmann had been repeatedly making personal attacks towards me in our chat rooms, his videos and elsewhere including but not at all limited to expressing public support for Techlore's content attacking me. In that video, Rossmann falsely claims to have stopped using GrapheneOS which his own followers found he was still clearly using as a daily driver many months later. He did that as part of presenting a false narrative about him being scared to use it. He also presented us potentially publicly replying to his public jabs as forcing him to make a video targeting me with harassment. None of it makes much sense. In reality, he continued using it as shown by multiple later videos. He eventually acknowledge that he'd kept using it. He was quite clearly not scared to use it and stopped using it because we didn't make content with him and were upset with his attacks on us.
Louis Rossmann openly has a verified Kiwi Farms account (larossmann) where he seeks their respect/approval and was quite openly catering to them in his content attacking me. Not possible to link to the site here without it being filtered but it's easy enough to find. It doesn't accomplish much to disallow linking to it when posts laundering the same content like this one are permitted.
If you want people to take you seriously I think you're going to need some evidence to back up your claims. You need to be citing sources every time you say something is inaccurate.
This is a feature not a bug
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44780766
This was a compliment, not an attack. I run grapheneos and appreciate its existence. cults are inherently more secure because of low outgroup trust.
Maybe Micay indeed isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to dealing with trolls and remembering the sequences of past events, and indeed might be accusing others of harassment without much basis.
However, the harassment towards Micay seems real. There's an active thread on KiwiFarms about Micay, and a random ass there frequently posts about his obsessions and makes all kinds of heavy accusations with sociopathic and narcissistic overtones.
KiwiFarms has a history of transferring their harassment from online text to offline violence.
Posted a reply at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44780766.
> remembering the sequences of past events
The post is presenting fabricated stories directly from Kiwi Farms. I know what has happened and have a lot of it saved.
> and indeed might be accusing others of harassment without much basis
I'm not doing that. The person who posted the blog post is quite clearly engaging in harassment, as were the 2 people who posted the videos they posted. It's the same style of stalking, fabrications, bullying and directing people to harass someone as Kiwi Farms itself. They were doing it before Kiwi Farms was involved.
> However, the harassment towards Micay seems real. There's an active thread on KiwiFarms about Micay, and a random ass there frequently posts about his obsessions and makes all kinds of heavy accusations with sociopathic and narcissistic overtones.
The post itself and the 2 videos it links are a clear demonstration of harassment. The person who made the post is quite clearly a Kiwi Farms user, and Rossmann openly has an identity verified account there seeking approval from the person you're talking about and others like them.
> KiwiFarms has a history of transferring their harassment from online text to offline violence.
This was all happening long before Kiwi Farms was involved by Rossmann. There were multiple severe swatting attacks aimed at having me killed by law enforcement and other real world attacks. It's not limited to online and the online attempts at harming my reputation with fabricated stories and baseless claims that I'm insane. There's also a massive effort to justify the libel, bullying and harassment based on itself by claiming that it's justified because I've defended myself from it with posts like these. That's what the linked post is doing and what both videos it links are doing. Both people who made those videos were engaging in public bullying and libel towards me prior to posting those. Rossmann posted his video because I was upset with him in private after being swatted repeatedly and he couldn't tolerate that. He very clearly wasn't scared of me and continued using GrapheneOS. He wasn't scared that us posting a reply to him would harm him either. He chose to make it public and expose himself as being involved in the harassment by very publicly engaging in it. He chooses to have a Kiwi Farms account (larossmann) where he seeks their respect/approval and involves them in his conflicts as his personal army by bringing those up in his videos or Kiwi Farms itself.