This phrasing surprised me, too. Bandera certainly has a mixed legacy. The truth of the matter is that Stalin's brutality and evil was so bad that he forced western Ukrainian nationalists to collaborate with Nazi Germany (which of course was also brutal and evil, but also offered a semblance of hope for Ukrainians, like other ethnic minorities and partisans who were placed against gargantuan rocks and hard places during the height of the horrors of the 20th century, and perhaps world history).
Hello, old-ish person born and living in Poland here. [0] I would just like to add some color to this topic.
I know that Ukraine has a complicated history with our country. I also believe that Ukraine is currently fighting for freedom and democracy in Europe.
Oddly enough, nothing better states my feelings than this Russian language music video, by a group who is now banned in Russia. IC3PEAK nailed it, and risked their lives in doing so. Please take less than three minutes to watch it with subs on.
The best bullshit always has a little bit of truth mixed in. Still not a justification for invading, and still just a cover for his, and Russia's overall, imperialistic ambition.
I know of Ukrainian anarchists who were fighting but then became very disillusioned with how the war was going and left. I’ve met plenty of young Ukrainians who also left because they didn’t want to die. If all Ukrainians wanted to fight in this war why are so many paying bribes so that they don’t have to go fight? Why do they pay bribes so that they don’t get sent on suicide missions. I assume that the average person just wants to live their life in peace. If war got the popular vote there would be no more or far fewer wars.
I hate all these power hungry psychos like Victoria Neuland and Putin who helped manufacture this civil war just so that they could get a little cut of the bounty. How people still believe capitalists states work in their interest is beyond me. Hunter Biden was earning 100x what the average Ukrainian earned in consulting fees in Ukraine. The whole point of the Ukrainian state since the collapse of the the USSR has been to shovel money from the state into the hands of which ever elite currently controlled the country it’s irrelevant whether they were backed by the west or Russia.
Yeah hilarious how leftwing content is shut down on this website. I don’t care if you believe what I’m saying maybe just take note on how what I’m saying is censored by people with power.
Good propaganda does not work on "entirely lies". In order to be more believable, it contains some shreds of truth and also some omissions.
Bandera was not a nice person, but neither were the Russian rulers whom the current Russian government lionizes as great people. As for Nazism in general, Wagner Group was founded by an actual Nazi.
Ballistic missile is flying in an intermittent cloud of plasma and cannot communicate or receive communication. Given that GNSS signals are very weak even a smallest plasma blocks them entirely.
It has been circulated that Kinzhals can now maneuver a bit, just enough to avoid PATRIOT interceptors and it looks like it's true.
Seems completely made up. I am not an RF engineer, but why would the signal composition not matter? Intuitively this just seems false. Supposing you hade a piece of music with some silence in it, wouldn't this silence be interpreted by the RF equipment as EW silence as well?
How exactly would the process even look like? You have a, presumably, very sophisticated EW setup, can you just upload mp3 files via Bluetooth, does it have a USB port or what? Why would the actual RF engineers building this go out of their way to enable crews to screw with the equipment like that.
The whole things seems extremely implausible. Other sources report the same exact story as if it were an established fact, but I highly doubt that.
Seems like a very bad idea to announce the capability and means for defeating an enemy weapon. Which makes me suspect this is misinformation or a psyop.
Eh, it's at such a superficial level it doesn't really pose a problem at the "revealing secret capabilities" level. It's EW, and Ukraine is covered in EW. If it's working against Kinzhal particularly, Russia doesn't need to read random English blog posts to find out. So this is just fluff propaganda or something. It's not that deep.
NATO overestimated Russia by wide margin. We were expecting Ukraine to fall apart within few months and then the plan was to fuel insurgency in Ukraine and turn it into another Afghanistan.
However thanks to outstanding Russian stupidity and underestimation of Ukraine by Russian side we got WW1 with drones where Russia burned all its Soviet armor and all its oil money. Way to go, Russia knock itself out without NATO lifting a finger.
You expect Russia to fight like America, but when was the last time that America won a war? America has spent trillions of dollars on colossal failures.
Huh? If you are hinting on Iraq or Afghanistan, that initial hot war has been won within months to days. Follow up uncontained insurgency was a problem which lingered unsolved for years and has been very painful.
Whole initial target of the West was to fuel this insurgency in Ukraine to make it forever war and constant draw on Russian resources. But Russia decided to pull out "pro gamer move" and get stuck with hot war phase for 4 years and still counting. Obviously initial plan of the West was foiled and replaced with magnitude better way to draw resources from Russia.
My posts on my old account were throttled because you know American venture capital loves freedom of speech but I’ll post this reply:
How am I trolling? Is saying something you don’t want to hear trolling. My advice is get the fuck out there and organise talk to ordinary people spread anti war sentiment stop jerking off over war tech. We are all on the same planet which is being destroyed so a few people can enrich themselves and hopefully survive the climate catastrophe they know is coming. Jesus Christ the website is run by venture capitalist psychos why do you think anything here is being made for your benifit whatever I’m going to stop posting because after 10+ years of lurking on this website it’s kinda obvious what this platforms mission is, it’s to get young engineers to naively post shit so venture capital can swoop in and suck up all the talent. Imagine we actually built economies for people and not for power? What’s sad is that people like Havel actually envisioned stuff like this and they were crushed by the logic of neoliberal capital. If you seriously think that any „Russian bot“ posts shit like this then you need to get your head checked. I’m an activist who has been harassed and used by these people for years. The more people I can get fighting war and for environmental justice and an economy that serves the people and not the rich the better. Anyways even trying to talk to you arrogant morons who have never been involved in politics or know anything the better I’m abandoning this account like I do with most of them because this website is a neoliberal shithole. Enjoy simping for either the US imperial rapists or the Russian cleptocrartic cunts. I don’t give a fuck. I’m going to keep trying to tell the truth in the real world. By the way this website throttled my posts because apparently I’m posting to much even though it’s been 10 minutes between my last posts. If any one here had been an actual activist in the last 5 years they would know the extreme amount of repression that’s been going on against anti war activists whether it was against people who opposed the war in Ukraine or the genocide in Gaza. I’m on government watchlists because of this fucking shit. So whatever believe whatever you want I don’t care, I’m the one who has actually faced repression because I try to te the truth about the sick fucking capitalist world we live in. and enjoy your life because we all know climate change is getting worse and global fascism is on the rise and simping for various liberal governments isn’t the solution. I’m not some celebrity activist just some one who grew up in the international politics world and I know exactly how little shits most politicians on a grand international scale see human beings. We are numbers in their war calculations. Whatever I’m gone and I’m not going to post anymore, if you really think I’m a propaganda bot you are fucking funny. I wish there were more propaganda bots actually posting like I do.
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Organise in real life. Mutual aid housing projects community run banks etc that’s my cure. Power to the people, and resources owned by people and managed for people, that’s my cure. It’s just an idea atm and I how things like this get implemented lies up to us. Hacker news keeps saying I post to fast though even though it’s been half an hour between my last posts. I’m gonna apologise for any shitty grammar or spelling because I’m wasted and pissed off
This is no longer true. The latest version of Kinzhal has maneuverability during the last section (and makes them much harder for Patriots to shoot down). This was done in 2025 and was(apparently) achieved via software modifications only.
So it's hypersonic and it's maneuverable? Which part of this is not a "true hypersonic"? The air breathing? Seems like we're splitting hairs just finely enough to say team red doesn't have the good stuff.
Not at all. I'm using industry standard definitions. To be clear, the US does not have an operational hypersonic either.
A ballistic weapon follows a somewhat parabolic trajectory. It goes way up, often into outer space, then it falls down with enormous speed. A bunch of potential energy is built up in its boost phase, and released as kinetic energy in a much shorter dive, usually exceeding several times the speed of sound.
A hypersonic weapon can travel at low altitudes in sustained flight in a non-parabolic flight path. That is the key differentiator. How you get there is up to you.
To that end, that often implies other things. Lower altitudes often has stuff you have to go around: the earth itself (sea level), hills or mountains, buildings, observation posts, radars, or you might want it to take a particular approach path in general for geopolitical reasons and fly it in commercial airline flight paths or along borders. This often means a lot of power is required to sustain flight, so usually not carrying your oxidizer is handy.
Unfortunately not anymore. Rumor is russian developers added a new capability this year - ability to deviate from ballistic trajectory just enough to avoid PATRIOT interceptors.
reads quite like propaganda. no technical details, just "patriotic music" can defeat high tech weapons vibes. terrible boring article.
"Bandera was a World War II Ukrainian insurgent" he is a very very controversial character[0] and that description is quite reducing.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
This phrasing surprised me, too. Bandera certainly has a mixed legacy. The truth of the matter is that Stalin's brutality and evil was so bad that he forced western Ukrainian nationalists to collaborate with Nazi Germany (which of course was also brutal and evil, but also offered a semblance of hope for Ukrainians, like other ethnic minorities and partisans who were placed against gargantuan rocks and hard places during the height of the horrors of the 20th century, and perhaps world history).
Hello, old-ish person born and living in Poland here. [0] I would just like to add some color to this topic.
I know that Ukraine has a complicated history with our country. I also believe that Ukraine is currently fighting for freedom and democracy in Europe.
Oddly enough, nothing better states my feelings than this Russian language music video, by a group who is now banned in Russia. IC3PEAK nailed it, and risked their lives in doing so. Please take less than three minutes to watch it with subs on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqohApD6Ng8 [1]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...
[1] Previous discussion, possibly the most upvoted music video on this website:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40027113
I really hate to say it, but makes it feel like not everything that Putin said was a lie.
what specifically, though? Did Putin actually say it? Did Putin also say something contradictory to it?
what about not-believing something from the Ukranian government makes Putin more trustworthy?
The best bullshit always has a little bit of truth mixed in. Still not a justification for invading, and still just a cover for his, and Russia's overall, imperialistic ambition.
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You don't think it's important to factor in what the Ukrainian citizens themselves want?
I know of Ukrainian anarchists who were fighting but then became very disillusioned with how the war was going and left. I’ve met plenty of young Ukrainians who also left because they didn’t want to die. If all Ukrainians wanted to fight in this war why are so many paying bribes so that they don’t have to go fight? Why do they pay bribes so that they don’t get sent on suicide missions. I assume that the average person just wants to live their life in peace. If war got the popular vote there would be no more or far fewer wars.
I hate all these power hungry psychos like Victoria Neuland and Putin who helped manufacture this civil war just so that they could get a little cut of the bounty. How people still believe capitalists states work in their interest is beyond me. Hunter Biden was earning 100x what the average Ukrainian earned in consulting fees in Ukraine. The whole point of the Ukrainian state since the collapse of the the USSR has been to shovel money from the state into the hands of which ever elite currently controlled the country it’s irrelevant whether they were backed by the west or Russia.
> because they didn’t want to die
Kinda answered your own question there. Idealism only takes most people so far.
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"I know of Ukrainian anarchists"
Anarchists are a very tiny minority everywhere. It does not make sense to judge the entire country by them.
"If all Ukrainians wanted to fight in this war"
They don't, but neither do all Russians. Moscow is trying really hard to avoid general mobilization.
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Your account was created half an hour ago with negative karma. Russian bot?
Yeah hilarious how leftwing content is shut down on this website. I don’t care if you believe what I’m saying maybe just take note on how what I’m saying is censored by people with power.
Good propaganda does not work on "entirely lies". In order to be more believable, it contains some shreds of truth and also some omissions.
Bandera was not a nice person, but neither were the Russian rulers whom the current Russian government lionizes as great people. As for Nazism in general, Wagner Group was founded by an actual Nazi.
It all boils down to Lenin's "Who? Whom?"
Duh? Ukraine is a big place for Nazis. Funnily enough, so is Russia (and if black metal is any indication, Finland). This is not exactly news.
edit: I’d appreciate comments explaining why I’m wrong besides drive by downvotes.
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And your cure for this is mindless trolling?
Ballistic missile is flying in an intermittent cloud of plasma and cannot communicate or receive communication. Given that GNSS signals are very weak even a smallest plasma blocks them entirely.
It has been circulated that Kinzhals can now maneuver a bit, just enough to avoid PATRIOT interceptors and it looks like it's true.
Seems completely made up. I am not an RF engineer, but why would the signal composition not matter? Intuitively this just seems false. Supposing you hade a piece of music with some silence in it, wouldn't this silence be interpreted by the RF equipment as EW silence as well?
How exactly would the process even look like? You have a, presumably, very sophisticated EW setup, can you just upload mp3 files via Bluetooth, does it have a USB port or what? Why would the actual RF engineers building this go out of their way to enable crews to screw with the equipment like that.
The whole things seems extremely implausible. Other sources report the same exact story as if it were an established fact, but I highly doubt that.
So the ending of Star Trek: Beyond wasn't so absurd after all
Seems like a very bad idea to announce the capability and means for defeating an enemy weapon. Which makes me suspect this is misinformation or a psyop.
Eh, it's at such a superficial level it doesn't really pose a problem at the "revealing secret capabilities" level. It's EW, and Ukraine is covered in EW. If it's working against Kinzhal particularly, Russia doesn't need to read random English blog posts to find out. So this is just fluff propaganda or something. It's not that deep.
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NATO overestimated Russia by wide margin. We were expecting Ukraine to fall apart within few months and then the plan was to fuel insurgency in Ukraine and turn it into another Afghanistan.
However thanks to outstanding Russian stupidity and underestimation of Ukraine by Russian side we got WW1 with drones where Russia burned all its Soviet armor and all its oil money. Way to go, Russia knock itself out without NATO lifting a finger.
You expect Russia to fight like America, but when was the last time that America won a war? America has spent trillions of dollars on colossal failures.
Huh? If you are hinting on Iraq or Afghanistan, that initial hot war has been won within months to days. Follow up uncontained insurgency was a problem which lingered unsolved for years and has been very painful.
Whole initial target of the West was to fuel this insurgency in Ukraine to make it forever war and constant draw on Russian resources. But Russia decided to pull out "pro gamer move" and get stuck with hot war phase for 4 years and still counting. Obviously initial plan of the West was foiled and replaced with magnitude better way to draw resources from Russia.
America failed to install democracy and lost trillions of dollars in the process. All of that for nothing.
Your account was created half an hour ago with negative karma. Russian bot?
My posts on my old account were throttled because you know American venture capital loves freedom of speech but I’ll post this reply:
How am I trolling? Is saying something you don’t want to hear trolling. My advice is get the fuck out there and organise talk to ordinary people spread anti war sentiment stop jerking off over war tech. We are all on the same planet which is being destroyed so a few people can enrich themselves and hopefully survive the climate catastrophe they know is coming. Jesus Christ the website is run by venture capitalist psychos why do you think anything here is being made for your benifit whatever I’m going to stop posting because after 10+ years of lurking on this website it’s kinda obvious what this platforms mission is, it’s to get young engineers to naively post shit so venture capital can swoop in and suck up all the talent. Imagine we actually built economies for people and not for power? What’s sad is that people like Havel actually envisioned stuff like this and they were crushed by the logic of neoliberal capital. If you seriously think that any „Russian bot“ posts shit like this then you need to get your head checked. I’m an activist who has been harassed and used by these people for years. The more people I can get fighting war and for environmental justice and an economy that serves the people and not the rich the better. Anyways even trying to talk to you arrogant morons who have never been involved in politics or know anything the better I’m abandoning this account like I do with most of them because this website is a neoliberal shithole. Enjoy simping for either the US imperial rapists or the Russian cleptocrartic cunts. I don’t give a fuck. I’m going to keep trying to tell the truth in the real world. By the way this website throttled my posts because apparently I’m posting to much even though it’s been 10 minutes between my last posts. If any one here had been an actual activist in the last 5 years they would know the extreme amount of repression that’s been going on against anti war activists whether it was against people who opposed the war in Ukraine or the genocide in Gaza. I’m on government watchlists because of this fucking shit. So whatever believe whatever you want I don’t care, I’m the one who has actually faced repression because I try to te the truth about the sick fucking capitalist world we live in. and enjoy your life because we all know climate change is getting worse and global fascism is on the rise and simping for various liberal governments isn’t the solution. I’m not some celebrity activist just some one who grew up in the international politics world and I know exactly how little shits most politicians on a grand international scale see human beings. We are numbers in their war calculations. Whatever I’m gone and I’m not going to post anymore, if you really think I’m a propaganda bot you are fucking funny. I wish there were more propaganda bots actually posting like I do.
TLDR
Organise in real life. Mutual aid housing projects community run banks etc that’s my cure. Power to the people, and resources owned by people and managed for people, that’s my cure. It’s just an idea atm and I how things like this get implemented lies up to us. Hacker news keeps saying I post to fast though even though it’s been half an hour between my last posts. I’m gonna apologise for any shitty grammar or spelling because I’m wasted and pissed off
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This is no longer true. The latest version of Kinzhal has maneuverability during the last section (and makes them much harder for Patriots to shoot down). This was done in 2025 and was(apparently) achieved via software modifications only.
I think you misread my comment. Maneuvering ballistic missiles are nothing new and have been around since the 70s.
So it's hypersonic and it's maneuverable? Which part of this is not a "true hypersonic"? The air breathing? Seems like we're splitting hairs just finely enough to say team red doesn't have the good stuff.
Not at all. I'm using industry standard definitions. To be clear, the US does not have an operational hypersonic either.
A ballistic weapon follows a somewhat parabolic trajectory. It goes way up, often into outer space, then it falls down with enormous speed. A bunch of potential energy is built up in its boost phase, and released as kinetic energy in a much shorter dive, usually exceeding several times the speed of sound.
A hypersonic weapon can travel at low altitudes in sustained flight in a non-parabolic flight path. That is the key differentiator. How you get there is up to you.
To that end, that often implies other things. Lower altitudes often has stuff you have to go around: the earth itself (sea level), hills or mountains, buildings, observation posts, radars, or you might want it to take a particular approach path in general for geopolitical reasons and fly it in commercial airline flight paths or along borders. This often means a lot of power is required to sustain flight, so usually not carrying your oxidizer is handy.
> are "just" air-launched ballistic missiles
Unfortunately not anymore. Rumor is russian developers added a new capability this year - ability to deviate from ballistic trajectory just enough to avoid PATRIOT interceptors.
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Current Ukrainian regime completely depends on Western money and weapons.
And Russian regime depends on China and North Korea, so is everything coming from Kremlin a Chinese propaganda or Korean propaganda?
I don't remember China staging a coup in Moscow and giving Russia weapons for free.
I don't remember Germany doing same in Ukraine.
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