The only way I'd pay for FB or Insta would be if one of the perks was "no ads". If that's not a feature, then it's a non-starter for me. Are there other things that would be "nice to have"? Sure. But I'm not paying for any of them AND still looking at their ads.
Does nobody have standard text messaging outside the US? Delete the app, and tell your friends to just send and SMS? What's so special about WhatsApp that everybody can't get off of it?
Just send sms? Like video calls, custom emojis, reactions, groups, business accounts with online catalog and checkout process, channels, custom status, etc all that with sms? Come on now, get real.
Maybe telegram or signal if you're going to propose an alternative but sms is ridiculous.
Absolutely. No accounts on Meta properties ever. My primary form of communication is actually the phone, followed by email. Have you tried actually calling people?
Just because everyone you know uses it, doesn't mean they can't use something else with you, maybe even understand for themselves why they shouldn't use Meta.
And it's very easy to do: you make a message for everyone you have as contact and tell them that whoever wants to continue to talk with you can continue doing so on signal, simplex, matrix, or whatever, explaining why you made this decision(meta bad, blah, blah) and tell them that in one month you'll delete your meta account(s).
At the end of that month, you do it. Remove any trace and very important: DON'T GO BACK on your decision(1 week, 1 month, 1 year) after. Whoever wants to talk, will do so wherever you told them to find you. Those that don't, well... they won't. And you'll also find out who actually cares enough to talk with you.
Businesses or maybe public figures that use these platforms for PR i kind of get it. Everything else they described just seemed depressing to me, taking advantage of the incredibly vain.
The only way I'd pay for FB or Insta would be if one of the perks was "no ads". If that's not a feature, then it's a non-starter for me. Are there other things that would be "nice to have"? Sure. But I'm not paying for any of them AND still looking at their ads.
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Original source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48298083
Are there people here who don't use WhatsApp at all? Meta products are really pissing me off, but everyone I know is on WhatsApp.
It's uncommon in the US, iMessage and SMS/MMS/RCS are the primary text chat systems here that everyone uses from their phones.
I meant out the US
Does nobody have standard text messaging outside the US? Delete the app, and tell your friends to just send and SMS? What's so special about WhatsApp that everybody can't get off of it?
Just send sms? Like video calls, custom emojis, reactions, groups, business accounts with online catalog and checkout process, channels, custom status, etc all that with sms? Come on now, get real.
Maybe telegram or signal if you're going to propose an alternative but sms is ridiculous.
I don't use it at all. The only Meta app I do use is Instagram and I'm rarely on there to be honest. Don't use Tik-Tok either, FWIW.
Absolutely. No accounts on Meta properties ever. My primary form of communication is actually the phone, followed by email. Have you tried actually calling people?
TLDR: Yes
Just because everyone you know uses it, doesn't mean they can't use something else with you, maybe even understand for themselves why they shouldn't use Meta.
And it's very easy to do: you make a message for everyone you have as contact and tell them that whoever wants to continue to talk with you can continue doing so on signal, simplex, matrix, or whatever, explaining why you made this decision(meta bad, blah, blah) and tell them that in one month you'll delete your meta account(s).
At the end of that month, you do it. Remove any trace and very important: DON'T GO BACK on your decision(1 week, 1 month, 1 year) after. Whoever wants to talk, will do so wherever you told them to find you. Those that don't, well... they won't. And you'll also find out who actually cares enough to talk with you.
Talking from experience.
Can't you still buy phone verified META accounts from hackers, ready to login ?
Businesses or maybe public figures that use these platforms for PR i kind of get it. Everything else they described just seemed depressing to me, taking advantage of the incredibly vain.
If it's ad and tracking free, and they guarantee its a human-only network, sure. No double-dipping if I'm no longer the product.
As I've seen somewhere:
Companies pay Google/Meta to show ads, and users pay them not to see ads.