The computer + the internet is the worlds greatest fidget spinner. How many times have you wanted to "quickly" check Wikipedia, e.g. reading up on a random town then find yourself down a 2 hour deep wikihole reading about plants, plate tectonics, and slavery. Hours and days lost to it.
What people need to do is plan out their time usage better, especially neurodivergent people who fall into these traps much easier (Hi.) I used to wake up on weekends, sit at my computer and burn down my morning and afternoon on it. I would regret it at times so I changed the habit: no computer in the morning. Make my bed. Put on coffee. Feed the cat. Eat something. Shower and groom. Get dressed and maybe go for a walk around the block. At that point I have little desire to burn a day looking at a screen.
Make a new morning routine. Start by making your bed (it's a building block, wax on/wax off.) If I want to use the computer I make a time slot and set a timer so I don't get lost. I then set other goals including going for walks, do some shopping. Exercise is another step, just basic stuff you can do at home in addition to walking like push-ups, sit-ups and so on. You can even buy a set of dumbbells/kettle-bells and make a little workout routine. Not to get swole but fit and energetic. That helps a lot as being sedentary leaves you with little energy and isn't good for your mental health either.
We cant avoid all the capitalistic push but we can avoid it as much as possible. Build new habits. Make new plans. Set new goals to curb screen time. It's easier than you think as you don't need to do everything at once, maybe just start making your bed and set an internet timer. Go for a short walk around the block or whatever. If you fail to do your new routine, relax, just try again tomorrow. Baby steps. Rome wasn't built in a day.
I feel like self-hosted voice and chat assistants - assuming we can get them to be good enough - can help fight this:
> The computer + the internet is the worlds greatest fidget spinner. How many times have you wanted to "quickly" check Wikipedia, e.g. reading up on a random town then find yourself down a 2 hour deep wikihole reading about plants, plate tectonics, and slavery. Hours and days lost to it.
If you want to know a thing, we should be able to have our computers fulfill that request without any extra drama or engagement bait. Self-host voice assistants require quite a bit of assembly, self-host chat assistants a bit less. We're moving in that direction.
The current self-host infra is absolutely a yak shaving exercise.
My point is, it doesn't have to be once the various solutions mature. Jesus it is irritating to get all the different stacks booting as services on Windows. So many of them want to install per-user, which is your first challenge. Then the next one is getting them to boot headless consistently. I had a few working, which now are back to non-working.
They could be designed to install and run natively as daemons or services, but just aren't. Even running as a desktop application, they all have API support available on localhost. (But most don't let you bind to an IP/custom port - you have to install a reverse proxy to expose them across the network, lol).
Things could be better, but they just weren't designed to be. I'm talking stuff like: ollama, invokeai, openwebui, LM Studio, faster-whisper, and so on...
The internet is like a militarised zone now. Joining a new website feels like going through airport security and being on the modern web feels like being stuck in an economy seat on a budget airline.
Get a big stuffed fabric-covered rocking chair (preferably of a dark color), a tall reading lamp, and a multi-layer bookshelf. Place all in the quietest corner of the quietest room of your living space. Visit your local Half-Price Books store and buy a copy of the Encyclopaedia Britannica. Put the Britannica on the shelves next to the chair with the reading lamp behind. Keep the rest of the room dimly-lit (and perhaps play some classical music).
If you have a question, try to use the encyclopedia before you log on.
The internet is still a great place for learning new things.....but man it is difficult to stay on track with all the distractions and small dopamine hits available a key stroke away.
For this reason I often turn to books and tinkering without using a phone or computer.
I love the internet. Its way more interesting than the world outside. Its not cool to say this yet people vote with their attention everyday. What's missing is a tech problem (touch, smell etc). Full matrix style immersion will solve that.
Would be an interesting world where we all live in chambers connected to the cloud. Would take care of overcrowded city problems with everyone trying to move to one place and driving up the cost of living. You can live on a farm in Ohio and have the New York experience.
You could be born in a poor country who's values you do not align with and become a citizen of one (hosted on a discord server) that feels like home.
Tech is beautiful. The ugly parts are just a midwit problem you falsely ascribe to runaway capitalism, other bogeymen, ludditism, a false shiny view of the past and projection of whatever thing isn't quite working out for you (your job, your relationship etc).
The irony is the best place to complain about it is on the internet.
I have a userscript to make it so every click on a YouTube video from the home page requires a 30 second wait. Dramatically decreased my mindless YouTube consumption.
You can write one for all websites to trigger a wait period if you want, or only problematic websites like Reddit or YouTube or Hacker News.
The key is to introduce friction, not to disable it entirely. We're addicts, we need to ween off it or else we go straight back to our drugs.
I had been using ai since gpt3.5 and after so many years of bullshit I am also sick and tired of everything related to it. First ai push at work was dumb, now i feel like second push is coming and I do not want to go through slop again. Internet being full of it does not help.
The computer + the internet is the worlds greatest fidget spinner. How many times have you wanted to "quickly" check Wikipedia, e.g. reading up on a random town then find yourself down a 2 hour deep wikihole reading about plants, plate tectonics, and slavery. Hours and days lost to it.
What people need to do is plan out their time usage better, especially neurodivergent people who fall into these traps much easier (Hi.) I used to wake up on weekends, sit at my computer and burn down my morning and afternoon on it. I would regret it at times so I changed the habit: no computer in the morning. Make my bed. Put on coffee. Feed the cat. Eat something. Shower and groom. Get dressed and maybe go for a walk around the block. At that point I have little desire to burn a day looking at a screen.
Make a new morning routine. Start by making your bed (it's a building block, wax on/wax off.) If I want to use the computer I make a time slot and set a timer so I don't get lost. I then set other goals including going for walks, do some shopping. Exercise is another step, just basic stuff you can do at home in addition to walking like push-ups, sit-ups and so on. You can even buy a set of dumbbells/kettle-bells and make a little workout routine. Not to get swole but fit and energetic. That helps a lot as being sedentary leaves you with little energy and isn't good for your mental health either.
We cant avoid all the capitalistic push but we can avoid it as much as possible. Build new habits. Make new plans. Set new goals to curb screen time. It's easier than you think as you don't need to do everything at once, maybe just start making your bed and set an internet timer. Go for a short walk around the block or whatever. If you fail to do your new routine, relax, just try again tomorrow. Baby steps. Rome wasn't built in a day.
I feel like self-hosted voice and chat assistants - assuming we can get them to be good enough - can help fight this:
> The computer + the internet is the worlds greatest fidget spinner. How many times have you wanted to "quickly" check Wikipedia, e.g. reading up on a random town then find yourself down a 2 hour deep wikihole reading about plants, plate tectonics, and slavery. Hours and days lost to it.
If you want to know a thing, we should be able to have our computers fulfill that request without any extra drama or engagement bait. Self-host voice assistants require quite a bit of assembly, self-host chat assistants a bit less. We're moving in that direction.
Too much tech. I think the focus should be non-tech aides to curb tech use. Otherwise you risk yak-shaving and you're back to fiddling with tech.
The current self-host infra is absolutely a yak shaving exercise.
My point is, it doesn't have to be once the various solutions mature. Jesus it is irritating to get all the different stacks booting as services on Windows. So many of them want to install per-user, which is your first challenge. Then the next one is getting them to boot headless consistently. I had a few working, which now are back to non-working.
They could be designed to install and run natively as daemons or services, but just aren't. Even running as a desktop application, they all have API support available on localhost. (But most don't let you bind to an IP/custom port - you have to install a reverse proxy to expose them across the network, lol).
Things could be better, but they just weren't designed to be. I'm talking stuff like: ollama, invokeai, openwebui, LM Studio, faster-whisper, and so on...
Take a break from this stuff. Go outside. I got burnt out from focusing on tech projects too much. I took a break. It's nice.
Can't take break from AI. Will get laid off.
The internet is like a militarised zone now. Joining a new website feels like going through airport security and being on the modern web feels like being stuck in an economy seat on a budget airline.
Get a big stuffed fabric-covered rocking chair (preferably of a dark color), a tall reading lamp, and a multi-layer bookshelf. Place all in the quietest corner of the quietest room of your living space. Visit your local Half-Price Books store and buy a copy of the Encyclopaedia Britannica. Put the Britannica on the shelves next to the chair with the reading lamp behind. Keep the rest of the room dimly-lit (and perhaps play some classical music).
If you have a question, try to use the encyclopedia before you log on.
The internet is still a great place for learning new things.....but man it is difficult to stay on track with all the distractions and small dopamine hits available a key stroke away.
For this reason I often turn to books and tinkering without using a phone or computer.
I've been feeling this way too. I'd rather spend more time outside being active than behind a computer for my whole life - my job, my hobbies.
Alas, I have to pay the bills, and I'm a long way until retirement. And my hobbies support my professional development.
I love the internet. Its way more interesting than the world outside. Its not cool to say this yet people vote with their attention everyday. What's missing is a tech problem (touch, smell etc). Full matrix style immersion will solve that.
Would be an interesting world where we all live in chambers connected to the cloud. Would take care of overcrowded city problems with everyone trying to move to one place and driving up the cost of living. You can live on a farm in Ohio and have the New York experience.
You could be born in a poor country who's values you do not align with and become a citizen of one (hosted on a discord server) that feels like home.
Tech is beautiful. The ugly parts are just a midwit problem you falsely ascribe to runaway capitalism, other bogeymen, ludditism, a false shiny view of the past and projection of whatever thing isn't quite working out for you (your job, your relationship etc).
The irony is the best place to complain about it is on the internet.
I think we‘re suffering from dopamine inflation. We need a more low-dopamine software.
Its like a drug. The highs are the highest, the lows are the lowest; and it seems the only way to win it is to not play.
Yeah, but it used to be like a good drug and now its like a bad drug.
Disabling my Facebook account helped for me. That was easily the most "bad drug" internet site I was on.
This reads like an essay in The Talos Principle.
We're developers, we can solve our own problems.
I have a userscript to make it so every click on a YouTube video from the home page requires a 30 second wait. Dramatically decreased my mindless YouTube consumption.
You can write one for all websites to trigger a wait period if you want, or only problematic websites like Reddit or YouTube or Hacker News.
The key is to introduce friction, not to disable it entirely. We're addicts, we need to ween off it or else we go straight back to our drugs.
I had been using ai since gpt3.5 and after so many years of bullshit I am also sick and tired of everything related to it. First ai push at work was dumb, now i feel like second push is coming and I do not want to go through slop again. Internet being full of it does not help.
"...it feels so fake and so capitalist."
Is there some genuine, socialist Internet somewhere?
All you need to do is avoid the sites that have captured the world-scale Eternal September. Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, etc.
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