I'm not a DBA or sysadmin, but naïvely I feel like there's a difference between adding it to the client prompt and adding it to the server log. One-time startup messages in prompts/REPLs/etc. are noise (most of the time) anyway, but I feel like I'd expect logs to only contain things actually relevant to the operation of the software. Curious if anyone else feels this way.
Seriously, it's a wild (and heart-breaking) story about js-core maintainer adding a similar line for funding, receiving many hateful answers, while in debt and even going to prison, then not being able to leaveRussia, just for the sake of continuing to maitain his FOSS lib.
I've posted it as a separate entry because it definitely needs more visibility.
I'm okay with this. Seems like they are going about it responsibly enough. Really don't understand the vitriol behind the response near the end either.
I would prefer it if there were more things like this. Or a randomly chosen line from a set for example.
I would argue that it shouldn't say "10k stars" tweak the verbiate to simply state: "Support MariaDB with a simple gesture by starring the project on GitHub at https://github.com/MariaDB/Server"
Edit: They finalized on something more generic it seems.
I see nothing wrong with this, neither in principle nor in practice. Also, this was merged over 6 months ago without incident. What is the purpose of this HN submission?
What's the point of such a famous database getting more stars on GitHub? Maybe my perspective is different but to me MariaDB is the default choice of relational DB after PostgreSQL
I've always hated how Postgres merged users, groups, and roles. Users and roles are different in Maria and last I checked, all three are different in Oracle.
I can see how Postgre's evolved that way out of history, when MySQL was thought of as a toy DB. It seems like they added features as a reactionary action then merged them to simplify and now we have three things that are essentially the same. It leads to confusion organization by organization.
Merged 6 months ago. This hardly seems newsworthy, even if it was at the time it was being merged. `enshittification` being thrown around for a single console line on a piece of software you probably aren't paying for seems like a supremely entitled free loading response.
Really, they should have merged this into some competing database for optimal marketing, like MongoDB. This is kind of like if you bought an Adidas sneaker and it said Adidas on it, like, yeah. I know.
I'm not a DBA or sysadmin, but naïvely I feel like there's a difference between adding it to the client prompt and adding it to the server log. One-time startup messages in prompts/REPLs/etc. are noise (most of the time) anyway, but I feel like I'd expect logs to only contain things actually relevant to the operation of the software. Curious if anyone else feels this way.
It will be interesting to see the uptick in stars if any.
The real gold in this thread however is the link to https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02...
Seriously, it's a wild (and heart-breaking) story about js-core maintainer adding a similar line for funding, receiving many hateful answers, while in debt and even going to prison, then not being able to leaveRussia, just for the sake of continuing to maitain his FOSS lib.
I've posted it as a separate entry because it definitely needs more visibility.
I'm okay with this. Seems like they are going about it responsibly enough. Really don't understand the vitriol behind the response near the end either.
I would prefer it if there were more things like this. Or a randomly chosen line from a set for example.
I would argue that it shouldn't say "10k stars" tweak the verbiate to simply state: "Support MariaDB with a simple gesture by starring the project on GitHub at https://github.com/MariaDB/Server"
Edit: They finalized on something more generic it seems.
https://github.com/MariaDB/server/pull/4262/files
I see nothing wrong with this, neither in principle nor in practice. Also, this was merged over 6 months ago without incident. What is the purpose of this HN submission?
Is there a particular reason why they're looking for Github stars?
What's the point of such a famous database getting more stars on GitHub? Maybe my perspective is different but to me MariaDB is the default choice of relational DB after PostgreSQL
Kind of agree, though using MariaDB is infinitely easier on Windows than Postgres.
Care to expand on this so perhaps Postgres people can attempt to make it better?
I've always hated how Postgres merged users, groups, and roles. Users and roles are different in Maria and last I checked, all three are different in Oracle.
I can see how Postgre's evolved that way out of history, when MySQL was thought of as a toy DB. It seems like they added features as a reactionary action then merged them to simplify and now we have three things that are essentially the same. It leads to confusion organization by organization.
It was picked as the KPI for someone responsible for community / communications?
People are getting so pissy over this haha. What a nothingburger.
This is a cute little harmless logging line.
I'm going to assume all the noisy dissenters are MySQL maintainers, because that head-canon is much funnier.
(2025)
More precisely, originally submitted in 2025 but wasn't merged until this year
Merged 6 months ago. This hardly seems newsworthy, even if it was at the time it was being merged. `enshittification` being thrown around for a single console line on a piece of software you probably aren't paying for seems like a supremely entitled free loading response.
Really, they should have merged this into some competing database for optimal marketing, like MongoDB. This is kind of like if you bought an Adidas sneaker and it said Adidas on it, like, yeah. I know.
Don't all adidas sneakers have the three line design on them?