The press release includes an image of a person brushing and looking at an image of their teeth on a phone. If you are actively brushing with toothpaste, the quality of the image will likely be as good as an unprepped colonoscopy.
It’s unlikely to yield any actionable information, other than scratching the pimple-popping gross-up itch.
On second thought, I am now half-expecting a home colonics device from Dyson. Easy setup… just lay down on your side in your bathtub.
> This includes a proprietary non-foaming toothpaste, formulated without SLS (a common foaming agent)
to help keep foam out of the way so the camera can see clearly and support Gap Optical Targeting™,
alongside a low-foaming mouthrinse formulated for use with the precision jet
Toothbrushes are a crappy device. I’ve seen some stuff lately that’s like a whole mouth brush, like a mouth guard. With a small pipe to the mouth guard feeding water, you can pretty much car wash your mouth every morning in 60 seconds. Sloshing water around in your mouth often creates way more pressure allowing water to go through the gaps in your teeth (cleaning them). But the waterpik sellers will convince you that isn’t true.
That’s the problem with highly skillful people that follow tradition. I’m sure the engineers are brilliant behind this (camera toothbrush designers), but they are still following tradition of this old idea.
Anyways. Sometimes you have to trust that you are well beyond tradition and are free to redefine all rules. Be fearless.
Whole mouth brush was a gimmick for almost two decades if not more, maybe these days its more adequate but I can only imagine what it could do to gums. Doctors can’t wait..
Sometimes I’ll add mouthwash or hydrogen-peroxide to the tank, it works well.
Usually I start with a quick rinse, then a brush with the flosser on, then a finishing brush with the flosser off.
I see this and am unsure if it’s over-engineering a less effective solution.
It’s neat, but I can’t say it excites me; am curious to see reviews and comparisons. The form factor does seem a bit odd though, visually it’s mediocre imo.
I truly don’t understand why would I need a camera in my toothbrush. I go to the dentist twice a year to get my teeth checked up for their health and also to get cleaned up and it’s covered from my health insurance.
Someone should've been more thorough when they prepped this for release.
I read all of that text. When I got to the part about their mouthwash (rinse) I found xylitol hyped as part of the disinfection regime. Xylitol was just tagged, again, in the literature as a source of cardiac issues and notes were that it was a common ingredient in chewing gum and mouthwash. The risks have been known for several years as documented here [0]. A recent article is this one [1]
After reading all of this I feel like Dyson should consider modifying the composition of their mouthwash to reduce the risk of users ingesting xylitol during or after this process. There are other synthetic sweeteners, each with its own set of problems but xylitol was commonly employed because it had antibacterial effects on bacteria that are known to cause gingivitis. Its use in chewing gum and in some foods probably caused most of the exposure events for people looking at healthier options for common items. Most people don't swallow mouthwash or toothpaste but there will always be some remaining in the mouth that is flushed into the system after brushing.
I checked their "Caveats and Sources" section at the end of the article. If you notice, there are 10 items in that list. When you read the article, there are only 8 tags linking to the Caveat list. Numbers 9 and 10, both related to MyDyson app (9) and claims associated with Dyson mouthwash and how the comparison was made (10) are not found in the text.
I find the whole device intriguing. Anything to simplify the tooth maintenance process and improve it works for me. I like that they attacked the tooth gap issue in an effort to minimize the need for mechanical flossing. I'm not sold on cameras on a toothbrush but if it works, I could be though I do not want a device like this to be connected to any other device that could have access to outside networks. It all needs to work in a self-contained system at point-of-use with data leakage, ever. Dyson doesn't need to learn to improve their devices by aggregating my teeth-brushing activity with that from millions (or thousands, or hundreds if it ever happens) of users. Pay people to participate. Use that data.
You're most likely using it in the same room where you poop, probably storing it next to a basin where you wash your dirty hands, and putting it in one of the dirtiest places in/on your body daily. It gets soaking wet hopefully twice daily.
The only dyson products I've used that didn't suck were their vacuums. (To be clear, their vacuums are shit and do not suck as well as even a cheap shark.)
I don’t even see how you can share direct to TikTok with this? Or have they got their own social network for toothbrushing? Can I use this to talk with someone using the Dyson ActiveDouche?
Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49527879
The press release includes an image of a person brushing and looking at an image of their teeth on a phone. If you are actively brushing with toothpaste, the quality of the image will likely be as good as an unprepped colonoscopy.
It’s unlikely to yield any actionable information, other than scratching the pimple-popping gross-up itch.
On second thought, I am now half-expecting a home colonics device from Dyson. Easy setup… just lay down on your side in your bathtub.
> unprepped colonoscopy
That is a phrase I didn't have on my HN bingo card for the day.
That’s why they developed a special toothpaste with less foaming (see the presentation video on youtube)
Plot twist: you can use the same device for mouth and colon cleaning.
Toothbrushes are a crappy device. I’ve seen some stuff lately that’s like a whole mouth brush, like a mouth guard. With a small pipe to the mouth guard feeding water, you can pretty much car wash your mouth every morning in 60 seconds. Sloshing water around in your mouth often creates way more pressure allowing water to go through the gaps in your teeth (cleaning them). But the waterpik sellers will convince you that isn’t true.
That’s the problem with highly skillful people that follow tradition. I’m sure the engineers are brilliant behind this (camera toothbrush designers), but they are still following tradition of this old idea.
Anyways. Sometimes you have to trust that you are well beyond tradition and are free to redefine all rules. Be fearless.
Whole mouth brush was a gimmick for almost two decades if not more, maybe these days its more adequate but I can only imagine what it could do to gums. Doctors can’t wait..
That whole mouth brush is also crazy exspensive, while I'd assume Philips' Sonicare line is well and profitable
The year is 2031, the Meta LlamaBrush won't start until it's played a 30s unskipable ad for Doritos spearmint.
I have a Waterpik Fusion 2.0
Sometimes I’ll add mouthwash or hydrogen-peroxide to the tank, it works well. Usually I start with a quick rinse, then a brush with the flosser on, then a finishing brush with the flosser off.
I see this and am unsure if it’s over-engineering a less effective solution. It’s neat, but I can’t say it excites me; am curious to see reviews and comparisons. The form factor does seem a bit odd though, visually it’s mediocre imo.
I had some deep-ish gum pockets and switched to this pattern, and many of them resolved over a year without intervention:
0. tongue scraper 1. brush with normal toothpaste 2 min 2. floss 3. mouthwash 4. rinse 5. brush with a dry toothpaste that you don't rinse
I started to treat it like an important health step, less a chore. Like exercise or cooking healthy food instead of buying shit takeout.
I just hit 6mm in one location. I have 4 months to avoid an intervention. Do you have a source / more info?
I truly don’t understand why would I need a camera in my toothbrush. I go to the dentist twice a year to get my teeth checked up for their health and also to get cleaned up and it’s covered from my health insurance.
You don't need a camera, but the responsibility still falls upon you, not the dentist. After all, unaddressed dental issues cause heart disease.
I saw this on X and assumed it was well done satire of the current state of the industry.
Someone should've been more thorough when they prepped this for release.
I read all of that text. When I got to the part about their mouthwash (rinse) I found xylitol hyped as part of the disinfection regime. Xylitol was just tagged, again, in the literature as a source of cardiac issues and notes were that it was a common ingredient in chewing gum and mouthwash. The risks have been known for several years as documented here [0]. A recent article is this one [1]
After reading all of this I feel like Dyson should consider modifying the composition of their mouthwash to reduce the risk of users ingesting xylitol during or after this process. There are other synthetic sweeteners, each with its own set of problems but xylitol was commonly employed because it had antibacterial effects on bacteria that are known to cause gingivitis. Its use in chewing gum and in some foods probably caused most of the exposure events for people looking at healthier options for common items. Most people don't swallow mouthwash or toothpaste but there will always be some remaining in the mouth that is flushed into the system after brushing.
I checked their "Caveats and Sources" section at the end of the article. If you notice, there are 10 items in that list. When you read the article, there are only 8 tags linking to the Caveat list. Numbers 9 and 10, both related to MyDyson app (9) and claims associated with Dyson mouthwash and how the comparison was made (10) are not found in the text.
I find the whole device intriguing. Anything to simplify the tooth maintenance process and improve it works for me. I like that they attacked the tooth gap issue in an effort to minimize the need for mechanical flossing. I'm not sold on cameras on a toothbrush but if it works, I could be though I do not want a device like this to be connected to any other device that could have access to outside networks. It all needs to work in a self-contained system at point-of-use with data leakage, ever. Dyson doesn't need to learn to improve their devices by aggregating my teeth-brushing activity with that from millions (or thousands, or hundreds if it ever happens) of users. Pay people to participate. Use that data.
[0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38842092/
[1] https://www.escardio.org/news/press/press-releases/xylitol-m...
I appreciate that whoever is approving naming at Dyson doesn't care about making boring names.
- Pencil Fluffycones
- Ball Animal 3 Extra
- V16 Piston Animal Submarine
These are real product names that they were happy to ship. I like that they ship these absurd sounding names.
Thought I read elsewhere that if these get dirty they are essentially blowing dirty water into your gums, which can cause health problems
tools like this almost need the same level of sanitization you would see at the dentist.
other than that, I am very interested
Qualified product should use antimicrobial plastic. You still need to disinfect it using mild disinfectant like iodophor.
Don’t get it dirty
You're most likely using it in the same room where you poop, probably storing it next to a basin where you wash your dirty hands, and putting it in one of the dirtiest places in/on your body daily. It gets soaking wet hopefully twice daily.
I hate to break it to you, but it will get dirty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF2piG0N5gg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuP4jZOs4sY
What a stupid design. The jet stream can't even reach last back teeth.
It wouldn't be a dyson without a shitty design.
The only dyson products I've used that didn't suck were their vacuums. (To be clear, their vacuums are shit and do not suck as well as even a cheap shark.)
ok, the pun is good
> Dyson CameraJet™ runs on 16 million lines of code
Yikes...
A waterflosser is available now and is mature technology that helps.
Meh. My toothbrush engine has around 100 trillion pathways in the neural network and sophisticated vision and motor capabilities.
Also it didn't push Brexit for years then piss of to Singapore.
Hmm, they didn't go with CamJet..
100K Pixel lol I guess 0.1MP doesn't sound impressive
Idk that is kind of trippy to see your own teeth in real time as you brush them
I don’t even see how you can share direct to TikTok with this? Or have they got their own social network for toothbrushing? Can I use this to talk with someone using the Dyson ActiveDouche?