I wonder if he followed a modern trend and was on TRT, it seems like a pattern for celebrity/powerful men of age these days: get on TRT, get in shape, cheat on your wife.
There is an obvious pattern for these high level executive roles. They are all workaholics, they are not particularly loyal, they all have loose moral compasses, they don't have any clear line between work and their personal life, and they treat relationships like business arrangements.
This feels so common that I would not even be quick to assume this is some sort of unknown betrayal to his family. One of the revelations about the Gates' lives was that Bill's promiscuity was apparently baked into their marriage agreement. At this level, your marriage might just be like a fixed mailing address for someone who has multiple homes.
Not to excuse this in any way. But these are the personalities of medieval lords and kings.
He would spend a week with a special friend every year (they'd hike together?), and this was in his marriage contract. That woman is now a VC. You can easily find out more if you google this.
There's this little part of me wondering if this was all known about for a long time, and the sudden release of information about all three women is coordinated for some nefarious business reason.
The affairs were probably open secrets to those high up for a while. Once Jensen's reputation passes a perceived point of no return, it makes sense for the other higher ups to leak everything they know to the media to shorten the duration of the scandal. The worst has happened, their action will not change, so no need to drag it out.
Jensen had the choice of coming clean like this, where half of Silicon Valley is rallying to his defence and his keeping his status as a billionaire, or having this exposed by the new Congress, at which point all manner of punitive countermeasures against Nvidia are on the table.
Currently, Energy & Commerce and Oversight & Investigations are asleep. Come January, they won't be.
Powerful men cheating is often normalized in their immediate environment. Jensen was seen with both women many times. It's the Chinese spy and export ban skirt angle that made it untenable.
Cf. the open secret nature around the entire Epstein cabal.
Possibly Nathan Calvin on Twitter in August: If you find two ants in your kitchen, the best estimate of the total number of ants in your kitchen is not two
Completely tangential but I always find it interesting how different expressions become attached to specific contexts in people's heads.
"This old house as got good bones" is the realtor 'slaps roof of car' meme that seems to have caught on during the 2010s and peaked during COVID. Now I hear people mindlessly propagating it whenever they talk about renovating/buying an old home.
I'm sure that we'll be hearing this ants in the kitchen of the house with good bones thing forever now.
I always got the impression that it was somewhat of an open secret that most billionaires had soft harems of sorts, usually tacitly understood but never publicly addressed, and that the apparent outrage at affairs/scandals at this level is a sort of charade of allegiance to social norms to enforce the facade that standards of propriety apply even at the highest levels.
Yes, one investigation begets others. Also, high profile witnesses come forward voluntarily once the screen is lifted on any unrelated investigation, but not typically before.
Here it seems the dude was just lobbling molotov cocktails at his own house until people started to notice. The conspiracy, if there is one, is what other folks who knew beforehand got out of him before it was made public, not why everyone is now pointing out shit is on fire for him.
This happens all the time with news stories and doesn't require conspiracy theories. Once an initial story breaks, other journalists investigate (if they weren't already). No doubt Nvidia started investigating internally and employees will have leaked the findings.
There isn't really even any point in this third story from the point of view of any "coordinated attack". He's already resigned.
Correlation isn’t causation always. Once there’s a scandal, more people start digging, and the more they dig, the more they find. The news cycle continues rewarding more information, so you keep getting more.
Are you serious? He had multiple affairs is what's going on. Including one with a spy. And people who wouldn't be believed before are now coming forward.
There's probably some mildly interesting risk-balancing that happened behind the scenes because the intel community apparently knew mid-2026 and only spilled the beans now, but this is entirely of Jensen's own doing. He confessed.
He clearly is a top performer, though, managing four-plus relationships is a big job.
A serial adulterer is revealed to have adulterated serially, and SV types are spilling oodles of ink attempting to justify loose morals and bad decision-making so long as it brought increased shareholder value.
It's weird, right? You see the same thing in police investigations. Oh, they know some things early, then, later, release more information? We're not that dumb.
When a real scandal happens, everything we know or will ever know gets dropped all at once. Anything else and you know someone is pulling the strings. The question is who? My money is on the arrow of time.
A shell game. This is the distraction portion. Then comes the switch, the reveal and the swipe. Watch the market indicators. Nobody buying and selling shares in a trillion-dollar company cares one iota about extramarital affairs. Something else is happening.
They might not care about affairs, but they are probably interested in the possibility that Nvidia circumvented US export controls, is being covertly influenced by China, and so on
I think people would be shocked to find out just how common "don't ask, don't tell" is among couples, especially among the rich, famous, and powerful. Everyone ganged up on Jada Smith until Will admitted he too sought outside "entanglements." Most couples who do this just hide it well enough, and it's only a problem when one of them is caught.
Not all, very likely not even most, of course, do this, and it's not always truly mutual or healthy, but surprise surprise, not every couple wants strict monogamy. They just don't want society to judge them for it.
People keep saying this like it makes it better... If I knew my partner was a serial philanderer it wouldn't make me feel great, even if said partner was worth billions.
A lot of marriages are purely for superficial image. Many people also fall out of love but stay together legally for various reasons.
Many ultra high net worth people are married purely for financial reasons. The wife gets whatever she wants but now they don't need to worry about losing control of their company, etc.
This is to say nothing of the biological differences either. Menopause hits some women extremely hard and libido is completely gone. Rather than divorce or mutually suffer, they open up the marriage.
When you see two ants in the kitchen there's likely many more.
Huang has been a great boss and steward of Nvidia, but ultimately falling for subordinates is grave enough, adding alleged Chinese spies, and allegations you sold Tencent billions of hardware through shady Singaporean companies for which the alleged spy worked etc and the board had no other options.
At this point it would be surprising if what we know is likely a small part and the Nvidia board saw enough very quickly to ask for his head.
There's no need to look. Jensen Huang might have been great for his shareholders, but he sure has been screwing the rest of us over hard.
He was responsible for hanging consumers out to dry by destroying the consumer PC market in chase of more profit. He is gambling with the world economy. He appears on interviews being a dick about all of this.
So I'd say this is very much in character for him.
I understand this is true in a strictly legal and financial sense. I hope you are simply pointing out a factual statement and not bootlicking for companies with business practices that make your own life worse?
>I understand this is true in a strictly legal and financial sense.
"Legal and financial sense" is how you run a business. Getting salty because a company decided to switch to a more profitable customer, while understandable, is also totally unreasonable. It's like getting mad at a band for selling $1000 concert tickets after they made it big. Doubly so when the product segment being affected is essentially a luxury product to begin with.
You're not really arguing anything here except that greed is expected, which is fair but not logical in the sense that, there is nothing about a business that says it has to operate this way, and no law that says being a fair and good entity in our community is necessarily going to bankrupt them. It's a choice leadership makes, for obvious and boring reasons, to fuck over the general community.
Big music artists could totally sell cheaper tickets and still make enormous piles of cash.
Nvidia could have continued supporting the consumer market alongside their AI ambitions.
The sad part is that we simply don't expect it anymore, because we no longer see businesses as part of our communities. Just as profit engines, with no other goal.
Companies don't exist in a vacuum, they are entities in our community, and we should expect them to behave in a way that is beneficial and fair, and sometimes that might be at the expense of unrealised profits. Not bankruptcy obviously, but there's a wide gamut of extreme prosperity between bankrupt and trillion dollar market cap.
>Big music artists could totally sell cheaper tickets and still make enormous piles of cash.
>Nvidia could have continued supporting the consumer market alongside their AI ambitions.
No, in both cases they'll just get scalped. If you're selling something for $1 that the market is willing to pay $10 for, the market will find a way to equalize this.
>Companies don't exist in a vacuum, they are entities in our community, and we should expect them to behave in a way that is beneficial and fair, and sometimes that might be at the expense of unrealised profits. Not bankruptcy obviously, but there's a wide gamut of extreme prosperity between bankrupt and trillion dollar market cap.
Give me a break. This might work if it's walmart replacing a dozen local shops with a giant big box store on the edge of town, but GPUs are already a niche luxury product. If there's one sector where it's justified for companies to make outsized profits on, it's this. Otherwise it's as out of touch as getting mad at Hermes for selling $10k hand bags.
I click on these ant kitchen people expecting some new account with 3 karma, nope, old ass accounts with lots of karma. Humans and bots converging in functionality.
Is it so bad? He founded one of history's most successful companies in one of the most exciting sectors on the planet and ran it for 33 years. He's 63.
The only thing that would actually be bad is if his wife left him, which we don't know is happening yet. Some women accept the "risk" (to put it tastelessly) of marrying a hundred-billionaire, and stick it out.
Depends on what he values, I don't think I'd be any happier with 150bn than maybe 100m, they're both large enough that I couldn't possibly see myself spending it. Not with this specific case, but I often see people saying/implying people must be happy because they're rich/founded a successful company/achieved something great/<insert desirable thing here>.
I guess people often think the things they imagine making themselves happy would make someone else who has that happy, and I just don't think that's the case that often. I don't think money buys happiness after a point, a certain amount gets rid of a lot of discomfort and stress and brings relief and security, a bit more can buy some happiness, after that it's just number go up.
Exactly, a lot of people (especially those who have plenty of material wealth) focus much more on legacy. Here we're watching Jensen's legacy turn into that of an incompetent and possibly a traitor, on top of being morally bankrupt. That can't feel good. It will color everything he has ever said or done, I'm sure you can find plenty of his quotes that will now seem ridiculous.
Despite not being a full subscriber to the "death of the author" concept, I do think we tend to ironically lean a little too petty/unrelated in our criticisms of big names when we discover their sexual sins, and I think this is an example of that. Yes, I'm sure you could find some quotes in there that are hypocritical given his sexual conduct, but I can't find one on an initial review. I think sometimes this can kind of harm the legitimate criticism by association.
I say this as somebody who has never had any admiration for this guy (not because of a specific grievance, but because I don't follow tech leadership and am generally pessimistic about them).
You're 1) projecting that it is my opinion, and not my estimation of public opinion; and 2) seemingly unfamiliar with how most people think - "we" do not lean toward anything but laziness, and this is how lazy thought works.
That being said his early life is crazy enough that a movie could save him. Lazy thinking is fickle, after all.
Who was that comedian that said something along of "I'd rather be depressed in an Rolls Royce than in a Honda"... Money doesn't buy happiness, but it removes the worry of where you are going to sleep tonight.
For sure, he's probably deeply unhappy about his legacy. I just mean "this is how it could all end" implies something a little more dramatic than that. While money doesn't buy happiness after a certain amount, it does buy the satisfaction of supporting your future generations. And that's not even to mention what he built.
At the current rate of disclosure Huang is going to be revealed to have had an affair with every woman in the world by 2038. It’s vital that we build out infrastructure to support this if we don’t want to be left behind.
At least we’ve now passed the tipping point where the majority of affairs are domestic. Some country out there is going to achieve HSM (Huang Second Marriage) and it’s vital to future prosperity that we make sure it’s the US.
"Claude, build me a website that tracks with whom Jensen Huang had an affair yet! Register the domain hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with and treat GETs on subdirectories as names for queries, like hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with/JaneDoe should display whether he had an affair with Jane Doe."
in all seriousness though, what is going on? everything here feels well timed and coordinated. were the powers that be just waiting for US midterms to pass? is there any relationship to the anthropic IPO? my tin foil hat is going to be working overtime these next few days
I mean it’s just much more of a favorable political environment for the board to investigate Huang. And journalists know that if there’s smoke, there’s likely fire. So it seems like a pretty natural pile-on if anything.
It is kinda weird that Jensen decided to resign so quickly though. I would’ve expected a longer investigation period involving both the board and Congress.
I should've worded my post differently. Jensen had a fast rise as a household name and the attention that came with it. Before 2020 I doubt more than 2% of the population could've named the CEO of Nvidia.
To be known by 2% of US Population as a business leader is by all means a household name. What then happened is more like superstar status akin to Steve Jobs. You simply can't rise higher than that.
Sure, but jail time for bypassing the export ban can definitely make it harder to use the money. Then again, given his affiliation with the POTUS he probably won't get jail time.
Parrots another article - even w ", Report Says" as the end of the headline.
The original article is from Reuters, partially written by this woman below whose history is all Washington stories then bam 4 articles on Nvidia and tech.
It all lining up perfectly with their quarterly earnings call does seem like a bit of a strange coincidence at the very least.
These are also not actually new developments, but years old. So they could have easily been stockpiled ahead of time, ready to deploy when opportune. Or maybe that's just standard when you're high profile enough? It's like accumulating and strategically burning 0 days. Or trading them for that matter.
Or at least the original report was like this. These newer ones are perfectly well explained by opportunism imo, if one is to believe that the anonymous sources really are company internal.
To a certain point I don't really care about how many subordinates it ends up being (something tells me there are more), but it does make all of the grindset quotes CEOs like Huang barf up all the more laughable.
> “I work every day. There’s not a day that goes by that I don’t work. And if I’m not working, I’m thinking about work.”
> “I wake up at 5am, and the moment I wake up, I start working… I’m asleep probably by 9:30pm.
A lot of people have said Nvidia are crazy to get rid of Huang, that he's a singular irreplaceable talent. What if, perhaps, he's not all he's made out to be?
He's bush league compared to Elon Musk who runs 6 companies simultaneously (Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, Neuralink, Boring, xAI) yet finds time to father at least 14 kids with at least 4 different women!
He very clearly isn't fully dedicated to his work, given his multiple affairs with his employees. Someone that was _actually_ laser focused on their company would, you know, not sleep with employees.
I think this is a weird angle. A man's unfaithfulness might very well be correlated with failures in his responsibilities as a leader, but the simple idea of working hard doesn't seem like one of them. In fact, if I may say something a little eyebrow-raising, that particular quality might even be inversely correlated...
We can find so much to criticize without stretching.
At how many $billion of market value should a board just figure that it's a cost of doing business to hire retired spooks to keep track of the CEO's personal life, and ensure that he has a pipeline of well-paid, background-checked, NDA-signed mistresses available to divert his eyes from the employees and spies?
I wonder if he followed a modern trend and was on TRT, it seems like a pattern for celebrity/powerful men of age these days: get on TRT, get in shape, cheat on your wife.
Do you suppose Sheryl Sandberg was also trying trt?
There is an obvious pattern for these high level executive roles. They are all workaholics, they are not particularly loyal, they all have loose moral compasses, they don't have any clear line between work and their personal life, and they treat relationships like business arrangements.
This feels so common that I would not even be quick to assume this is some sort of unknown betrayal to his family. One of the revelations about the Gates' lives was that Bill's promiscuity was apparently baked into their marriage agreement. At this level, your marriage might just be like a fixed mailing address for someone who has multiple homes.
Not to excuse this in any way. But these are the personalities of medieval lords and kings.
> One of the revelations about the Gates' lives was that Bill's promiscuity was apparently baked into their marriage agreement.
Are there details on this? Yes, I do like the sordid gossip.
He would spend a week with a special friend every year (they'd hike together?), and this was in his marriage contract. That woman is now a VC. You can easily find out more if you google this.
There's this little part of me wondering if this was all known about for a long time, and the sudden release of information about all three women is coordinated for some nefarious business reason.
The affairs were probably open secrets to those high up for a while. Once Jensen's reputation passes a perceived point of no return, it makes sense for the other higher ups to leak everything they know to the media to shorten the duration of the scandal. The worst has happened, their action will not change, so no need to drag it out.
Whitehouse knew it months ago… why is it coming out after election? Not sure how it would have impacted it beforehand.
> why is it coming out after election?
Jensen had the choice of coming clean like this, where half of Silicon Valley is rallying to his defence and his keeping his status as a billionaire, or having this exposed by the new Congress, at which point all manner of punitive countermeasures against Nvidia are on the table.
Currently, Energy & Commerce and Oversight & Investigations are asleep. Come January, they won't be.
Maybe a way to dump stocks without everyone screaming insider trading.
This is an obvious Chinese government op in coordination with US media to get him removed.
China manufactures their own AI chips now. It’s in their national interest to impede US progress in this area.
Jensen was the one pushing to get more chips into China. So China's master stroke was....to get him fired?
They got the chips they need for now and now they need time to catch up on EUV lithography.
The idea that NVIDIA would continue whatever arrangement they had under increasing pressure is really childish.
I think it will become obvious who is pulling the strings when they decide on who takes the keys after Jensen.
Collette Kress is interim CEO. It might be hard to weave that into your conspiracy theory.
Powerful men cheating is often normalized in their immediate environment. Jensen was seen with both women many times. It's the Chinese spy and export ban skirt angle that made it untenable.
Cf. the open secret nature around the entire Epstein cabal.
If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.
It's true of kitchen-ant comments as well: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
We have to figure out where this comes from! It's so recent: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49828285 references https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535 - that's the earliest I've seen so far. Others?
Edit: thanks ChatGPT: https://barrypopik.com/blog/there_is_never_one_cockroach_bus...
Proverb #232 of https://www.asau.ru/files/pdf/2759983.pdf says it's attested from 1991:
232 There is never just one cockroach. (1991)
Variant: There is never just one cockroach in the kitchen
Ants are nicer though.
Warren Buffet said the cockroach variant in his 1989 investor letter.
https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1989.html
"In a difficult business, no sooner is one problem solved than another surfaces - never is there just one cockroach in the kitchen."
Possibly Nathan Calvin on Twitter in August: If you find two ants in your kitchen, the best estimate of the total number of ants in your kitchen is not two
August 5th about Open AI:
https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535
September 4th.. still about Open AI:
https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2095854095139537064
November 11th.. Alex Lawsen on Twitter, referencing Nathan's post (above):
https://x.com/lxrjl/status/2120640689620861335
Completely tangential but I always find it interesting how different expressions become attached to specific contexts in people's heads.
"This old house as got good bones" is the realtor 'slaps roof of car' meme that seems to have caught on during the 2010s and peaked during COVID. Now I hear people mindlessly propagating it whenever they talk about renovating/buying an old home.
I'm sure that we'll be hearing this ants in the kitchen of the house with good bones thing forever now.
If the ant in your kitchen IPOs the same day you are evicted from your kitchen, the spies in your kitchen are not Chinese.
ANThropic IPO pun? in this economy?
Can't spell Anthropic without IPO.
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> If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.
And Jensen Huang may have had an improper relationship with at least one of them.
listening to the verge?
"I want a man with a short shirt, and a Huang jacket"
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I hope that the people he had affairs with are treated ok and not retaliated against or hounded by the world news media.
They weren't naive waifs. They knew what the deal was and who the dealer was.
Why?
uuuuh because they're people?
And jenson isn't people? Affair implies consent from both parties right?
Annoying whataboutism. No one mentioned anything other than hoping the media doesn't hound these women.
I always got the impression that it was somewhat of an open secret that most billionaires had soft harems of sorts, usually tacitly understood but never publicly addressed, and that the apparent outrage at affairs/scandals at this level is a sort of charade of allegiance to social norms to enforce the facade that standards of propriety apply even at the highest levels.
This seems like a coordinated hit, slowly releasing more and more information. What's really going on?
One affair always brings up other affairs out of the closet. Same rule goes for harassment and abuse claims.
That’s what is going on.
The better metaphor is "where there's smoke, there's fire."
Three different news orgs have reported the different affairs.
Yes, one investigation begets others. Also, high profile witnesses come forward voluntarily once the screen is lifted on any unrelated investigation, but not typically before.
"where someone benefits from the fire, there's arson"
Here it seems the dude was just lobbling molotov cocktails at his own house until people started to notice. The conspiracy, if there is one, is what other folks who knew beforehand got out of him before it was made public, not why everyone is now pointing out shit is on fire for him.
This happens all the time with news stories and doesn't require conspiracy theories. Once an initial story breaks, other journalists investigate (if they weren't already). No doubt Nvidia started investigating internally and employees will have leaked the findings.
There isn't really even any point in this third story from the point of view of any "coordinated attack". He's already resigned.
Of course not. The board is finding out all these things on the same timeline we are. They are surprised like Pikachu.
just to diversify this subthread a little, i actually do see the perspective: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50476972
tbf, these side affairs i think are more just people piling on
Correlation isn’t causation always. Once there’s a scandal, more people start digging, and the more they dig, the more they find. The news cycle continues rewarding more information, so you keep getting more.
Are you serious? He had multiple affairs is what's going on. Including one with a spy. And people who wouldn't be believed before are now coming forward.
There's probably some mildly interesting risk-balancing that happened behind the scenes because the intel community apparently knew mid-2026 and only spilled the beans now, but this is entirely of Jensen's own doing. He confessed.
He clearly is a top performer, though, managing four-plus relationships is a big job.
> mid-2026
mid-2025*
> What's really going on?
A lesson, apparently, for everyone asking "what the big deal is".
If ever you wanted to understand the meaning of the word "liability", here it is.
"Coordinated hits", as you put it, have as their prerequisite the creation of a "liability".
Journalism plus circumstances loosening tongues and reducing the downside of being truthful.
As the British police are fond of saying in cold case appeals: allegiances shift.
A serial adulterer is revealed to have adulterated serially, and SV types are spilling oodles of ink attempting to justify loose morals and bad decision-making so long as it brought increased shareholder value.
journalists pumping their sources
Dont mess up with the intelligence community. He should have talked more to Jack Ma.
It's weird, right? You see the same thing in police investigations. Oh, they know some things early, then, later, release more information? We're not that dumb.
When a real scandal happens, everything we know or will ever know gets dropped all at once. Anything else and you know someone is pulling the strings. The question is who? My money is on the arrow of time.
Entrapment, they (FBI, whatever) knew about the "spy" and yet didn't go like ... "Hey Jensen, we gotta tell you something..." Pathetic.
>> What's really going on?
A shell game. This is the distraction portion. Then comes the switch, the reveal and the swipe. Watch the market indicators. Nobody buying and selling shares in a trillion-dollar company cares one iota about extramarital affairs. Something else is happening.
They might not care about affairs, but they are probably interested in the possibility that Nvidia circumvented US export controls, is being covertly influenced by China, and so on
As it turns out, Huang was a fallible human being.
It sounds like it’s a bad idea to have a single fallible human be “the face of the AI book powering the US economy” as the NYTimes is calling Jensen.
So is Musk. So were Gates and Bezos
Almost like being a billionaire requires being a terrible person willing to take advantage of others to get ridiculously too far ahead.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6688834/
> Almost like being a billionaire requires being a terrible person willing to take advantage of others to get ridiculously too far ahead.
Turns out that taxing their wealth is an intervention.
We need to do it if only for their own good to save them from the pressures that cause them to act increasingly antisocial.
Is this common at the board level of major companies and uncommon to get out? Or is this really uncommon.
It's as common as days of the week that end in the letter Y.
feel bad for his wife man, has to be rough to keep seeing this
I wouldn't be surprised if she's known for years, if not decades. If she wants out she always has the Melinda Gates option.
I think people would be shocked to find out just how common "don't ask, don't tell" is among couples, especially among the rich, famous, and powerful. Everyone ganged up on Jada Smith until Will admitted he too sought outside "entanglements." Most couples who do this just hide it well enough, and it's only a problem when one of them is caught.
Not all, very likely not even most, of course, do this, and it's not always truly mutual or healthy, but surprise surprise, not every couple wants strict monogamy. They just don't want society to judge them for it.
TIL: True monogamy only appears in 3-5% of mammals in the animal kingdom.
I'm sure his wife feels reassured by that statistic.
I'm sure she knew.
People keep saying this like it makes it better... If I knew my partner was a serial philanderer it wouldn't make me feel great, even if said partner was worth billions.
A lot of marriages are purely for superficial image. Many people also fall out of love but stay together legally for various reasons.
Many ultra high net worth people are married purely for financial reasons. The wife gets whatever she wants but now they don't need to worry about losing control of their company, etc.
This is to say nothing of the biological differences either. Menopause hits some women extremely hard and libido is completely gone. Rather than divorce or mutually suffer, they open up the marriage.
When you see two ants in the kitchen there's likely many more.
Huang has been a great boss and steward of Nvidia, but ultimately falling for subordinates is grave enough, adding alleged Chinese spies, and allegations you sold Tencent billions of hardware through shady Singaporean companies for which the alleged spy worked etc and the board had no other options.
At this point it would be surprising if what we know is likely a small part and the Nvidia board saw enough very quickly to ask for his head.
There's no need to look. Jensen Huang might have been great for his shareholders, but he sure has been screwing the rest of us over hard.
He was responsible for hanging consumers out to dry by destroying the consumer PC market in chase of more profit. He is gambling with the world economy. He appears on interviews being a dick about all of this.
So I'd say this is very much in character for him.
He (and nVidia) have no responsibility to consumers. They have a responsibility to their largest customers and to their shareholders.
I understand this is true in a strictly legal and financial sense. I hope you are simply pointing out a factual statement and not bootlicking for companies with business practices that make your own life worse?
>I understand this is true in a strictly legal and financial sense.
"Legal and financial sense" is how you run a business. Getting salty because a company decided to switch to a more profitable customer, while understandable, is also totally unreasonable. It's like getting mad at a band for selling $1000 concert tickets after they made it big. Doubly so when the product segment being affected is essentially a luxury product to begin with.
You're not really arguing anything here except that greed is expected, which is fair but not logical in the sense that, there is nothing about a business that says it has to operate this way, and no law that says being a fair and good entity in our community is necessarily going to bankrupt them. It's a choice leadership makes, for obvious and boring reasons, to fuck over the general community.
Big music artists could totally sell cheaper tickets and still make enormous piles of cash.
Nvidia could have continued supporting the consumer market alongside their AI ambitions.
The sad part is that we simply don't expect it anymore, because we no longer see businesses as part of our communities. Just as profit engines, with no other goal.
Companies don't exist in a vacuum, they are entities in our community, and we should expect them to behave in a way that is beneficial and fair, and sometimes that might be at the expense of unrealised profits. Not bankruptcy obviously, but there's a wide gamut of extreme prosperity between bankrupt and trillion dollar market cap.
>Big music artists could totally sell cheaper tickets and still make enormous piles of cash.
>Nvidia could have continued supporting the consumer market alongside their AI ambitions.
No, in both cases they'll just get scalped. If you're selling something for $1 that the market is willing to pay $10 for, the market will find a way to equalize this.
>Companies don't exist in a vacuum, they are entities in our community, and we should expect them to behave in a way that is beneficial and fair, and sometimes that might be at the expense of unrealised profits. Not bankruptcy obviously, but there's a wide gamut of extreme prosperity between bankrupt and trillion dollar market cap.
Give me a break. This might work if it's walmart replacing a dozen local shops with a giant big box store on the edge of town, but GPUs are already a niche luxury product. If there's one sector where it's justified for companies to make outsized profits on, it's this. Otherwise it's as out of touch as getting mad at Hermes for selling $10k hand bags.
I think he's trying to help people understand that "He was responsible for hanging consumers out to dry" is some sort of wishful thinking.
Demand has far exceeded supply, and so consumers are priced out.
This is no different than how most developing countries have been priced out of top GPUs since the dawn of computing.
It sucks, but to pin the blame on someone for not selling you a GPU at below market rates is... not fruitful.
All the irrelevant ant kitchen posts really drives home the dead internet theory.
It shouldn't be surprise we are seeing so many of these posts surface.
After all, when you see two ants in the kitchen..
I click on these ant kitchen people expecting some new account with 3 karma, nope, old ass accounts with lots of karma. Humans and bots converging in functionality.
I would if he went to bed everything realizing this is how it could all end?
Is it so bad? He founded one of history's most successful companies in one of the most exciting sectors on the planet and ran it for 33 years. He's 63.
The only thing that would actually be bad is if his wife left him, which we don't know is happening yet. Some women accept the "risk" (to put it tastelessly) of marrying a hundred-billionaire, and stick it out.
Depends on what he values, I don't think I'd be any happier with 150bn than maybe 100m, they're both large enough that I couldn't possibly see myself spending it. Not with this specific case, but I often see people saying/implying people must be happy because they're rich/founded a successful company/achieved something great/<insert desirable thing here>.
I guess people often think the things they imagine making themselves happy would make someone else who has that happy, and I just don't think that's the case that often. I don't think money buys happiness after a point, a certain amount gets rid of a lot of discomfort and stress and brings relief and security, a bit more can buy some happiness, after that it's just number go up.
Exactly, a lot of people (especially those who have plenty of material wealth) focus much more on legacy. Here we're watching Jensen's legacy turn into that of an incompetent and possibly a traitor, on top of being morally bankrupt. That can't feel good. It will color everything he has ever said or done, I'm sure you can find plenty of his quotes that will now seem ridiculous.
https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/jensen-huang-quotes
Despite not being a full subscriber to the "death of the author" concept, I do think we tend to ironically lean a little too petty/unrelated in our criticisms of big names when we discover their sexual sins, and I think this is an example of that. Yes, I'm sure you could find some quotes in there that are hypocritical given his sexual conduct, but I can't find one on an initial review. I think sometimes this can kind of harm the legitimate criticism by association.
I say this as somebody who has never had any admiration for this guy (not because of a specific grievance, but because I don't follow tech leadership and am generally pessimistic about them).
You're 1) projecting that it is my opinion, and not my estimation of public opinion; and 2) seemingly unfamiliar with how most people think - "we" do not lean toward anything but laziness, and this is how lazy thought works.
That being said his early life is crazy enough that a movie could save him. Lazy thinking is fickle, after all.
Who was that comedian that said something along of "I'd rather be depressed in an Rolls Royce than in a Honda"... Money doesn't buy happiness, but it removes the worry of where you are going to sleep tonight.
For sure, he's probably deeply unhappy about his legacy. I just mean "this is how it could all end" implies something a little more dramatic than that. While money doesn't buy happiness after a certain amount, it does buy the satisfaction of supporting your future generations. And that's not even to mention what he built.
He's an engineer. He spent his life building engineering marvels, and creating tools to help others build engineering marvels.
He's also spent his life building a large, very influential company.
Could it be that those are the things he values?
She didn't marry a hundred-billionaire. They met as students at Oregon State. :(
> The only thing that would actually be bad
Would be investigation ending in jail time.
At the current rate of disclosure Huang is going to be revealed to have had an affair with every woman in the world by 2038. It’s vital that we build out infrastructure to support this if we don’t want to be left behind.
At least we’ve now passed the tipping point where the majority of affairs are domestic. Some country out there is going to achieve HSM (Huang Second Marriage) and it’s vital to future prosperity that we make sure it’s the US.
"Claude, build me a website that tracks with whom Jensen Huang had an affair yet! Register the domain hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with and treat GETs on subdirectories as names for queries, like hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with/JaneDoe should display whether he had an affair with Jane Doe."
https://xkcd.com/605/
sigh, another 2038 problem to solve.
Might be quicker to start asking which Nvidia employees he didn't sleep with.
That is it...I am buying a leather jacket!
You also need employees.
and revenue. don't forget the revenue.
Maybe aging to 60+ won't be that bad? Thank you Jensen for showing younger men there is hope.
Step 1: Be a famous Billionaire CEO.
Buy a brown one
I don't who the 3rd affair will be with, but the 4th one will be with sticks and stones
:)
One affair is a scandal.
Two affairs is a pattern.
Three affairs is just funny.
Bill Gates had a similar pattern
He had 3, had to look it up.
One relationship per GPU core.
There are memes about... running SLI <wink wink nudge nudge>
And frankly at this point, where nothing surprises you anymore we should probably just enjoy some stupid pictures with captions
stop it!! he's already dead!!
in all seriousness though, what is going on? everything here feels well timed and coordinated. were the powers that be just waiting for US midterms to pass? is there any relationship to the anthropic IPO? my tin foil hat is going to be working overtime these next few days
Plenty of benign explanations without needing tinfoil
- The affair(s) were so badly hidden that they became obvious once one was exposed
- High profile CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world means a lot of eyes
- something akin to the Streisand effect keeps things in the news cycle
Yeah, hundreds of reporters suddenly being interested in the story after the initial news broke shines a lot more lights on things.
The initial story about the spy dropped on October 29th, before the midterms.
At that point it was probably just a matter of time until the rest came out.
I mean it’s just much more of a favorable political environment for the board to investigate Huang. And journalists know that if there’s smoke, there’s likely fire. So it seems like a pretty natural pile-on if anything.
It is kinda weird that Jensen decided to resign so quickly though. I would’ve expected a longer investigation period involving both the board and Congress.
Parallel execution in action
Need a power of 2 now
Amateur. Tiger Woods had at least 9 extramarital affairs.
Jensen has had a heck of a ride, fastest rise and fall we've seen in a while. Looks like he didn't handle the attention very well.
Fast fall, yes, but his rise has been years in the making.
I should've worded my post differently. Jensen had a fast rise as a household name and the attention that came with it. Before 2020 I doubt more than 2% of the population could've named the CEO of Nvidia.
To be known by 2% of US Population as a business leader is by all means a household name. What then happened is more like superstar status akin to Steve Jobs. You simply can't rise higher than that.
Seems like the joke went over your head.
I'm not sure what joke you're seeing, but if you're referring to my post, it wasn't intentional!
Decades actually!
Having a cushion of $145B he won't be hurt from the fall.
California is a community property state. Lori is about to take control of her half of that in 3, 2, 1...
I would be so devastated to only have 122.5 billion dollars... but you know what, if someone wants to give me 5 million, I'll settle for it.
Sure, but jail time for bypassing the export ban can definitely make it harder to use the money. Then again, given his affiliation with the POTUS he probably won't get jail time.
I thought attention is all you need.
Parrots another article - even w ", Report Says" as the end of the headline.
The original article is from Reuters, partially written by this woman below whose history is all Washington stories then bam 4 articles on Nvidia and tech.
https://www.reuters.com/authors/alexandra-alper/
Appears to be manipulated news (which we're used to), story is real but should be seen through that lens - why?
(This must have originally been posted to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50473868 - we've since merged the threads.)
It all lining up perfectly with their quarterly earnings call does seem like a bit of a strange coincidence at the very least.
These are also not actually new developments, but years old. So they could have easily been stockpiled ahead of time, ready to deploy when opportune. Or maybe that's just standard when you're high profile enough? It's like accumulating and strategically burning 0 days. Or trading them for that matter.
Or at least the original report was like this. These newer ones are perfectly well explained by opportunism imo, if one is to believe that the anonymous sources really are company internal.
Who gives a damn who he is having an r-ship with. It's 2026.
I can't believe Jensen Huang popped the AI bubble with his d*ck...
To a certain point I don't really care about how many subordinates it ends up being (something tells me there are more), but it does make all of the grindset quotes CEOs like Huang barf up all the more laughable.
> “I work every day. There’s not a day that goes by that I don’t work. And if I’m not working, I’m thinking about work.”
> “I wake up at 5am, and the moment I wake up, I start working… I’m asleep probably by 9:30pm.
https://www.startuparchive.org/p/jensen-huang-there-s-hard-w...
A lot of people have said Nvidia are crazy to get rid of Huang, that he's a singular irreplaceable talent. What if, perhaps, he's not all he's made out to be?
His affairs are clearly reprehensible, but what does this have to do with how hard he works?
He has time for at least four romantic relationships.
Jensen: “You're not talking to someone who woke up a loser. That loser attitude, that loser premise makes no sense to me.”
He's bush league compared to Elon Musk who runs 6 companies simultaneously (Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, Neuralink, Boring, xAI) yet finds time to father at least 14 kids with at least 4 different women!
Almost Genghis Khan level... a few more and conquer at least half of the solar system, then we talk. Loser!
Isn't his usual relationship with those women "here's some sperm, have at it"?
He very clearly isn't fully dedicated to his work, given his multiple affairs with his employees. Someone that was _actually_ laser focused on their company would, you know, not sleep with employees.
I think this is a weird angle. A man's unfaithfulness might very well be correlated with failures in his responsibilities as a leader, but the simple idea of working hard doesn't seem like one of them. In fact, if I may say something a little eyebrow-raising, that particular quality might even be inversely correlated...
We can find so much to criticize without stretching.
Look, what happens between a billionaire CEO, three consenting adults, and a Singaporean shell company is a personal matter that should not concern us
- Hacker News
You would do the same thing in his position!
- Also Hacker News
People love to self-report by announcing what "everyone" would do in different situations.
At how many $billion of market value should a board just figure that it's a cost of doing business to hire retired spooks to keep track of the CEO's personal life, and ensure that he has a pipeline of well-paid, background-checked, NDA-signed mistresses available to divert his eyes from the employees and spies?
There are three "I"s in NVIDIA (latin)
I mean he's the boss of a GPU company, no surprise he's having affairs in parallel.
These AI slop chinese soap-operas are so good...